View Full Version : Knock Al Basra & Kashan Out Of Place?
Heeeey folks,
First of all, I'm up for some PR tonight!
I'm gonna throw a suggestion out there; can we rejig the map list so that Al Basra and Kashan aren't near the top?
We've all noticed PR has had a flopping interest over the last few months except when a genuine push is attempted... But even then, I think the last 5 times I've played PR on the T&T server, the map is Al Basra, followed by Kashan.
Especially if the server crashes and goes back to Al Basra, it can get pretty tiresome!
If I'm being honest, I've played Al Basra so much over the years, and especially recently I'd be happy not to see it for a while, and whilst of course I don't speak for anyone else but myself, I have a niggling feeling that we might have greater success filling the server in the evenings if the map wasn't always seeming to be Al Basra.
I mean, a round on Al Basra (not including the time it takes to get people in and stop farting around) can take around 2 hours; given the average person only has about 6 hours free time in an evening after work/education, and many players (myself excluded) actually have lives/other things to do such as gym, family, the wife, 2 hours on Al Basra (again) when you come home from work/education I can imagine may be a small reason why it's hard to fill the server some nights.
Multiple times we've suffered death-by-Al-Basra, for the round to end and move onto Kashan; perhaps one of the most plain, idiot-prone, no-teamwork, long-drawn-out maps ever created; even with a team attempting to work together I've seen this map end more times because of the 3 hour timer than having captured all the flags/losing tickets; online at 6, 2 hours of basra, then 8-11 of kashan before bedtime is torture!
Whilst I'm on the subject and having the biggest rant I've had in a long time - Muttrah as well, it has been done to death!
Let's let one of the underdogs have a turn on the top of the pile?
tbh heskey, when was the last time the maplist was actaully followed?
True enough point; though I believe Kashan follows Basra in which case it currently is being followed?
That aside Element, it's not so much about the map list order as it is about changing the default map from Al Basra.
paratrooper[BG]
06-01-10, 12:32
for me basrah is the place where we join up ,kashan is not bad if you not loose the tanks in first 10 min .(my first post ypieeeeeee)
;28641']for me basrah is the place where we join up
Problem is, is it ends up being the place where people spend an hour joining up, by which time the game is already under way, so much so that it would be 'unfair' to change maps.
Again folks to reitterate this is primarily about changing the default/first map in rotation!
What do you suggest we replace it with?
What do you suggest we replace it with?
Now I'm very glad you asked this question SqnLdr... But without a current map list I couldn't suggest!
Need to see them infront of me so I can weigh up in my head playability, fun factors, replayability/overplayedness; and of course to make sure I don't forget any!
Anyone got the maplist?
Sadist_Cain
06-01-10, 13:57
tis true we never tend to follow the maplist but also true that it seems like the current maplist is slightly suicidal if the server's seeded then left to its own devices
Seeding in Falluja West is usually good. The map allows you to get to work at once, even with few players.
And from a infantry viewpoint it is a good map. (even if the map i getting better in 0.9 its still very playable)
We need a maplist with a poll, I think.
I'll make a post (in the members section) when I get a mo.
You cheeky devil; you'll all pick something atrocious like Karbala or Quinling!
paratrooper[BG]
06-01-10, 15:16
You cheeky devil; you'll all pick something atrocious like Karbala or Quinling!
whats wrong with quinling ?;)
its boring seeding on insurgency maps
i agree - insurgency maps are pretty dull. i like sunset city, jabal and asad personally.......
I think I hate them all, wardle!
Sadist_Cain
06-01-10, 17:45
I like quinling... and fallujah
I think I hate them all, wardle!
beggers can't be choosers :P
Cheesygoodness
06-01-10, 19:18
You cheeky devil; you'll all pick something atrocious like Karbala or Quinling!
Uh... Isn't that the point? So you got a perk to being a member?
Hell I think everyone knows how I feel about Al Basrah.
Mestia is the seeding map of choice.
But most importantly?
It ain't my place to decide.
cyberzomby
06-01-10, 20:36
Granted I havent played/seeded here in ages, but when I still did, I was glad when we could finaly get past Basrah after seeding it for 2 hours. When I check you guys seeding, your almost always doind Basrah. You should be able to play that one blindfolded now :P
Without meaning to be rude but at the end of the day, the maplist is publically open to suggestions only... the end decision is always going to be down to the boys in red and purple.
Want a voice as to what's what with the server? Make your regular contribution ;)
Basrah filled the server tonight. Does it pretty much every time. Other maps are less successful.
Why risk change.
Happy to have a red/purple vote. Even happier for more purples to join up and swing it their way ;)
cyberzomby
07-01-10, 14:48
Without meaning to be rude but at the end of the day, the maplist is publically open to suggestions only... the end decision is always going to be down to the boys in red and purple.
Want a voice as to what's what with the server? Make your regular contribution ;)
Ofcourse :) Thats why I said it the way I said. If its allowed, I'll probably sign up again when .9 hits the fan and the PR community starts playing PR like crazy
It's a valid point Masaq but hits a little left of the centre as they're not the buttons I'm trying to press - Simply offering up a server suggestion as a community tagalong that might help activity; whether to consider it or not is that ball right there in your court ;)
In the past, "we're seeding, can you stick it on XXXX" has cropped up in the chatbox from a non-member. The request is usually fulfilled.
If you're willing to play on our server with low populace, we'll be happy to put it on the map of your choice - as long as you communicate this - Get your arse in the PR channel and chatbox it up, we're not long distance mind readers.
If the server is populated and goes down, the map won't remain on Basrah.
So, what's the problem again?
Hell, Jabal was top of the list until recently anyway.
If you're willing to play on our server with low populace, we'll be happy to put it on the map of your choice - as long as you communicate this - Get your arse in the PR channel and chatbox it up, we're not long distance mind readers.
Cheap pop at Misc Games channel there chappy, people always go to the PR channel when playing PR.
Also: [Yesterday 19:23] Heskey (http://www.tacteam.org/forums/member.php?u=70) X (javascript:deleteMessage(12143)): Come on folks, PR push tonight
If the server is populated and goes down, the map won't remain on Basrah.
So, what's the problem again?
That for quite some time Basra has been the first map on the list; it's gotten stale for seeding, stale in general and on rare occasions it has been, and may well be the case that there are no admins around to change the map (not to mention that changing the map in late versions seems to risk server crashes; so why not change the default?)
Would love to suggest one as you asked earlier but still yet to find a maplist.
I read your messege in the chatbox last night Heskey. If it had said 'Can we have it on xxx?' I would've happily considered changing the map.
I wasn't 'popping' at the Misc Game channel - simply that restructuring the maplist can be a pain in the arse, and we'd rather change the map when you want to seed - this requires communication.
But, I do feel you can infer from this sentance that I feel safe in expressing my oppinions about the arrangement of a teamspeak server I pay for. Oh wait, look at that - no inferences needed.
Heskey makes a good point, we should have some diversity! I contribute regularly and would like to see Heskey's point put forward.
Thanks
http://symonsez.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/can-of-worms.jpg
Go onto the T&T server. Open the console with `, to the left of 1 on your keyboard. Type maplist.list
The top couple will be missed off, but you'll be able to guess what they are easily.
Alternatively, create a new local multiplayer game, and look at the maps.
Then make your point in this thread, instead of being a cheeky berk. :)
Look, we've been through this so many times. Basrah gets the server full pretty much every time. If it doesn't, it's normally because the players simply aren't there. And yes, as SqnLdr said, Jabal was the first map until last week. And, like he rightly said, a crash would of course mean we'd change map - it's common sense.
Let me make this quite clear: I am not altering the current maplist. I will, of course, be doing so on release of 0.9, as you'd all expect.
There are plenty of people around during core gaming hours who can set whichever map people want. All they have to do is get in game and do it. If that's a hurdle that some people have a problem with, then too bad.
I'm happy for any map to be tried as a seeder. All that's required is communication. But I ain't modifying any map lists!
Oh - and I am grateful for the seeding attempts you all make. Really.
I contribute regularly
Though not monthly .... :music_whistling:
Well that's well laid out, clear enough and acceptable logic epoch - Thanks =]
Though not monthly .... :music_whistling:
Excuse me but Iv yet to miss a payment date! :disgust:
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