1.009

[Squid_von_torgar]

Hi guys,

Are there plans to upgrade the T&T sever to 1.009 status?

BTW if you havent already tried it, the patch is awesome

Cheers

Squid

[epoch]

Hi

Server updated. I don't know if the missions will be affected, so I'll rely on feedback from the regulars on that.

Will install patch and might pop on myself later.

Edit: I don't think the existing missions work. I can see an error message in the server console:

!!! ERROR INET thread: MIS_REQUEST_FALED: MIST_SERVERNOTIFYPROXY

Might need Masaq or someone to take a look. I don't play RoF as much now to know what's what here.

Edit2: Server failing to log in now. Louie The Fly suggests a master server issue, due to people downloading the patch. I'll leave the server OFF for now, and will restart later, and we'll take it from there.

[Squid_von_torgar]

Ok thanks epoch, ill keep an eye out. I cant think of any reason as to why the missions wouldnt work. That said it seems im having a master server issue this end too.

[Sensenmann]

The missions need to be updated to 1.009 as well.

There were some changes in command sequencing in the coding and while those changes don't affect the T&T missions (as they don't rely on complex AI commands) it still is causing compatibility issues.

I am working on getting all my missions redone for 1.009, including utilizing some streamlining of the code suggested by Chill31, but for the interim it is possible to just update the missions to 1.009 and keep the server running.

To update all the files all one needs to do is open the Mission Editor on the server (assuming it is there) select TOOLS on the menu bar, select Convert Missions to binary in Folder, locate the Rise of Flight\data\Multiplayer\Cooperative folder in the pop up window and click OK.

[epoch]

Hi

The mission editor isn't installed on the server.

How about I give you an FTP share that you can upload your updated missions to?

[Sensenmann]

I can do that... hit me!

[epoch]

Ok I'll PM you now

[Sensenmann]

Couldn't get in the ftp thing... probably because I am uncertain what I am doing

Here are the files in zip form ... no need to do anything extra with them just drop them in the server cooperative folder

Cheers

[epoch]

Ok I'll upload them (will need to restart the server I assume).

What about the missions that were done by others (Masaq/Madtommy)? Do they need updating too?

[epoch]

Sensenmann ... we had to revert to your previous maps. The guys on the server were experiencing problems. Not sure exactly what - perhaps Squid could elaborate?

[Cecil A Lewis]

Guys, have you seen Chill31's missions that fix the damn annoying 10019 error after every mission, also he added observer mode! Do you think you'd be able to load these missions instead? Would be cool if possible thanks!

http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=131&t=2265&start=160
http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=131&t=4879&start=10

Without the observer mode it's very dull at the moment.

Appreciate the hard work guys. :salute:

[epoch]

I'm confused.

Is the server currently running some of Chill31's missions (so you're asking me to update) or are they new missions?

Please advise.

And where's Masaq when I need him!?!

[Cecil A Lewis]

It may have a few of Chill's previously on there but these are new ones specifically for 1009 patch which just came out on Friday 4th Dec. So yes they need updating - looking through these seem to be completely new missions though so will be different content - they would be good until <nobr>Sensenmann</nobr> can update his (which are currently the ones on the server I think) if possible?

At the moment there is a 10019 error after every mission that kicks all from the server every time (been there since 1008 patch) Chill says he fixed this yesterday "Sat Dec 05, 2009"

Also he added Observer mode to the missions as since 1009 no one can observe in a game. That's a major issue as you sit watching a bit of grass for 20 minutes with no game message, nothing interesting, until the mission is over - and then at the end of it.... you get kicked 10019 ;). So any new person joins, HAS to wait so you know when the mission ends, get kicked, then restart the game and rejoin. Quite nuts.


Any current mission on there isn't good for the above reasons :)

Hope that helps.

Cheers
C

[Sensenmann]

Sorry Epoch :redface:. Didn't mean to abandon you with non-working missions yesterday. I had gone through all my missions prior to the 1.009 patch to fix some various things and everything was working. In order to get you some files for the server I recompiled everything to 1.009 and figured they would work, as any issues I have run into so far have been tied to sequenced AI commands, which the T&T missions don't use.

I had to leave, had plans with my girl (who gave me grief for taking the time to send the missions - they just never understand these things :disgust:) and so, wasn't home the rest of the day.

I will take a look at them and see if I can figure out what is broken. Would be nice if I could get some feed back on what was not working.

Also, sounds like there is an issue with the spectator mode: will look at Chill's missions and see what he has done to remedy this.

Expect a re-post soon...

[chill31]

The missions I posted on RoF just the other day are all updated to 1.009. They should be 10019 error free and have a spectator mode than you can use by pushing F11 and the ASWD keys to move around. Its not as good as the chase plane view, but its better than nothing.

Sensenmann, when you look at the missions I made, its the observer camera that I use to get spectator mode. You have to enable it (in advanced properties) for Neutral, since thats what the observers seem to be labeled as in the game when they have not chosen a side. Also, recheck your objectives if you havent already. They got some new features there.

[Cecil A Lewis]

Thanks guys, Chill the new F11 free cam observer is also in current missions on the T&T, but plonks you somewhere on the map (where I have no idea but it's no where near the front line, so almost useless). Sorry I thought you had another way to do it in your missions?

We need a way to put us in a view near the mission centre/goal at least?
Also a message to pop up when players join too (is that possible) would be really useful.

New players must be mighty confused. Grass, no message, nothing.

[imp]

Somebody was saying that it would be nice to have winter missions. Any volunteers? :idiot:


Since 1.009 the train mission gives me lots of memory error messages and eventually a game crash, other people on teamspeak had similar issues. Not sure if something can be done about it but it would be nice :) At least now the mission does not crash the server anymore :D

[chill31]

My cameras put you in the middle of the action instead of in the middle of no where :) You just have to navigate it from that point

[Masaq]

Hey guys, am back from 5 days away with the gf :)


If someone could enlighten me as to exactly what needs to be fixed up in existing missions that Tommy and I have created, and what outstanding tasks need to be done in terms of updating missions from others, that'd be good...

And I'll spend a few hours tomorrow morning uploading and such.


M

[chill31]

Masaq, I'm guessing all of your T&T missions have been updated with the mission editor to 1.009? If thats the case, we are still getting 10019 errors on some of your missions.

The cause for this (with regard to mission creation) is not entirely known. I think some of it has to do with the numbers of airplanes in the missions and how they are deactivated as well as with the number of objects in the mission.

I have made some missions where players are not getting the 10019 error using some new deactivations methods as well as reducing the number of extraneous objects ie. all of the objects in the mission are mission related elements and not just for decoration.

If you have any requests for new missions, i'll be happy to make some. or if you want to have a look at the missions I made, i uploaded them on the T&T RoF page

[Masaq]

No, nothing's been touched for the latest patch - as I say, I've been away since last Wednesday; the patch hadn't come out when I left so nothing's been touched at my end.

From a ME point of view, what are the principal changes/is there anything I should be aware of? Is it worth making a few stock furball-type missions again from scratch?

With regards to some new "proper" missions as opposed to the simple 12v12 or whatever, I'll drop you a line in a day or two when I've reaquainted myself with the server - it's been 5 days away but about a fortnight since last playing RoF, thanks to work :(

Thanks again for your help, Chill.

[epoch]

Thank gawd you're back Mas!

[Sensenmann]

Welcome back Masaq,

I am working on getting my missions up and running again with the 1.009 patch and can tell you there are quite a few, as yet undocumented, changes.

Most of them I have been dealing with are tied to the AI sequenced commands (for my serial dogfight and US13th server missions). Formerly all messages had a source and target, of which you could leave the source blank if need be. Now there are Events and Messages; Events work just like a target only message, and any sourceless messages (like the OnDeath messages we've used for counting planes) should still be in place. The new Messages require both the CMD (source) and target, and any sequenced commands (i.e. OnTakeoff triggering a waypoint) have been removed and need to be reestablished.

Furthermore, NeoQB have added the ability to set the loadout for planes. Not only does this affect the AI but also the default loadout for a player's plane in the hanger. So, I have been going through my missions and removing bombs from the Entente if they are not needed for the missions.

Objectives have likewise been changed. There are four "sides" now: Neutral, Allies, Central Powers, and Future Powers. You will need to change yours accordingly as they default to Neutral and varied settings depending on what you had before.

Outside of that, there are a lot of other things I have seen but not worked with yet. Definitely need to do some playing around in the ME and see what new things are possible, but for the time being just trying to get all my missions back up and running.

The new winter textures are one thing I have attempted to use, but it looks as if you might need to create a new mission as any attempts to switch an existing mission to them results in lost ground structures and a crash to desktop if you try to reintroduce them. Perhaps doing a select all on all the objects and saving that as a group, then starting a new mission, setting the winter texture set and importing the saved group might work... haven't tried that yet.

At present I am changing my missions to utilize Chill's suggestion of OnLand commands instead of Check Zones to remove unused/AI planes. Should have them ready sometime tomorrow.

[Masaq]

Holy shit, this is going to take up my weekend, isn't it... lol...

[epoch]

Yes.

Less whinging, more working (on Rof).

Get to it!

[Sensenmann]

FYI... to make a current mission into a winter one: load the existing mission, make sure all items are selected in the object filter, select all items on the map and save to a group. Create a new mission, switch to the winter textures (height map, textures and forests = landscape_winter) and apply. Then import the group.

You might want to copy the mission description and make note of weather conditions and such.

Just did this with my Albys vs Nieups mission and it tested out fine.

[imp]

Where is everyone btw, the past two evenings there was nobody playing or on TS when I was checking apart from the russians that are always there ;).

[TX-Thunderbolt]

I'll be in tonight around 8p EST. :)

[imp]

That's 0200 my time :sleep:

[Sensenmann]

OK.... here are my missions once again... all done up pretty like for 1.009 and hopefully no bugs or otherwise.

Any issues, just let me know and I will get on it post hence...

[TX-Thunderbolt]

Server is down?

[chill31]

Well, some good news and bad news...

Good news is I have 9 missions that work with airstarts and minimal lag and no 10019 error, so you will automatically be rejoined to the next mission after "spectating" a mission.

Bad news is that after further testing, the working spectator camera that i had going was probably a coincidence or some other fluke. So as of now, there is no for sure way to make the spectator cam work which sucks big time.

Here are my 9 missions, some with winter textures. I will be updating them to eliminate the need to click finish after the last enemy crashes, but its a slow process and will take me some days to do.

I cant upload .ace files here, so the missions are on RoF.com under dedicated servers

[imp]

Can anyone else see the server ingame?

[Miggins]

Hope you don't mind, but I grabbed a copy of both files for the Hussars server too, though I@ve managed to get the thing visible in the MP server list I have not managed to connect to it as yet.

Anyone have any ideas what I should be looking for to fix it?

[Miggins]

Can anyone else see the server ingame?

I had to get Lefty to do something to make the Hussar server visible in the list, what it was he never said, but even though it's in the list I have yet to manage to actually connect yet.

Don't know if this is any help as you guys seem to know what you are doing WAY more than I do. :)

[Sensenmann]

Hope you don't mind, but I grabbed a copy of both files for the Hussars server too, though I@ve managed to get the thing visible in the MP server list I have not managed to connect to it as yet.

Anyone have any ideas what I should be looking for to fix it?

If you are referring to my missions, I have no problems with you running them on Hussars, but you may want to edit out the T&T intro at the beginning of the missions. There is a timer and a subtitle connected directly to the Mission begin MCU, placed right beside it. Just confirm it is the correct subtitle before you delete.