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Hellbender
01-11-09, 02:45
I have a defensive playing style. I think it pays off in the long run.

I also realise that it annoys the living %$*£& out of some people. Something I can understand. Coops are, by their very nature, not very conductive to drawn-out fights between a whole bunch of fighters on one side, and the sole survivor on the other. Everyone else just needs to sit there and wait. For which I apologise.


Now, in those cases, you can either fight to near-certain death, or simply decide to bug out (or at least run far away enough until most pursuers have given up and you have built up an energy advantage).

Especially with the release of the Dr.I, I find that all my old Noop 28 can do is run, run and then run some more.


So I'd like to come up with a solution, on how to be able to bug out safely when the odds have massively turned against you, without getting shot to bits on landing.

Well, in one sentence: AAA cover. Lots and lots of AAA around the home airfield. Fighters following you home will have to rethink their strategy.

If they follow you, they run into a wall of shrapnel. This gives everyone the chance to return to base facing impossible odds and a possibility to end the mission, sparing the other players waiting.


Please consider this.


S! :salute:

- Hb

Cecil A Lewis
01-11-09, 02:58
I understand the need to try to stay alive some, but it is a game after all with the prime focus on flying to shoot things - rather than flying away, so throw a few virtual lives into the pot and have some fun I say - get stuck in that man and stop the Zzz flying to stay alive. We won't tell anyone honest ;)

On the AAA thought, as it's totally deadly then there should certainly be a little more over the airfields to stop vultures in the future dogfight mode.

Hellbender
01-11-09, 03:19
I understand the need to try to stay alive some, but it is a game after all with the prime focus on flying to shoot things - rather than flying away, so throw a few virtual lives into the pot and have some fun I say - get stuck in that man and stop the Zzz flying to stay alive. We won't tell anyone honest ;)

I do agree that ZzZzzZzzzZ flying amounts to very little and bores everyone (including me), though I am often without a choice if the enemy is giving chase relentlessly, driven by greed for that last kill. It's either that or plain old suicide against impossible odds. In my opinion, getting the bird home in one piece has always been priority numero uno. Otherwise, it's just AirQuake.

Things will, oddly enough, sort themselves out as soon as we get Dogfight mode, where time matters very little.

In the meantime, AAA at airfields will work as a good enough deterrent, I reckon.

Sensenmann
01-11-09, 03:42
It would be easy enough to put in some flak and mg cover.

But don't expect great results, even with the AI set to ace they aren't all that accurate. Still, might save ones hide all the same.

If the general consensus is that this is wanted, I will edit in some AA cover at the aerodromes and resubmit my missions.

Winkle
01-11-09, 04:11
In the situation you were in tonight. Three of us chasing you. :)

I would have started Level Flight and then just Finish Mission.



I did that on the train mission once. First to get there. Bombed the train, missed terrible but got shot to snot by AAA. I put the plane on auto flight and finished mission. My plane sailed happily home and beyond. The bad thing is a Fokker chased my empty plane for most of the mission.

Hellbender
01-11-09, 05:05
I would have started Level Flight and then just Finish Mission.

That's a great suggestion!

I'll do that in the future.

:D

Cecil A Lewis
01-11-09, 20:56
Cracking idea Winkle. Then just tell em when you do that Hellbender and then they can quit to and we can all crack on with more surviving or dying as required ;)

Hellbender
02-11-09, 00:02
Doing this now and it works like a charm.

Consider the issue resolved!

Hellbender
13-11-09, 22:00
Doing this now and it works like a charm.

Consider the issue resolved!

Well, I've been doing this for a while now and people are still bitching...

Now they say that I use a lame tactic to "run away and finish".

:disgust:


To clarify, I don't finish unless:

- I'm the last guy left, my plane is in good flying condition, has ample fuel left and it looks like it'll all boil down to who will run out of fuel first. That's the kind of match I'd like to spare everyone else sitting there waiting for the next round.

- Engaging in a 1 on 1 with my pursuer is pretty much guaranteed to spiral down to suicidal head-on passes. As I always fly the Nieuport 28, that means against either one of the Fokkers, I'll simply bug out when outnumbered. It's either that or a long, long slow climbing fight, which I won't start unless there are still other people fighting elsewhere.

- I assume that I can safely land before he gets to me.



All in all, it's time we got Dogfight servers.

People really seem to need their AirQuake fix.

And it will allow people like me to take off with 100% fuel and really take my time to get up there and pick vulnerable targets.

Sensenmann
13-11-09, 23:08
Sadly you can never please everyone. No matter how considerate you try to be, some sniveling little git is going to cry foul.

And yes, I agree it is time for the DF servers. Let the plebes wallow in the mire, stealing each others kills and bitching about the gang bang while those of us with some skill and patience set up for our assured kills.

Then again, I may just come up and see if I can't knock you down! :music_whistling:(yeah right).

Hellbender
15-11-09, 18:39
And yes, I agree it is time for the DF servers. Let the plebes wallow in the mire, stealing each others kills and bitching about the gang bang while those of us with some skill and patience set up for our assured kills.

Thank you. I feel less of a freak already.

Then again, I may just come up and see if I can't knock you down! :music_whistling:(yeah right).Hehehe, you're more than welcome to do so!

I'm someone who genuinely enjoys being taken down by a skilled and patient opponent.

The other day I was one-shotted at considerable altitude by a Russian flyer. Granted, he was in one of those silly powerful Dr. Is, but the deflection shot was absolutely beautiful. I felt nothing but awe as my smoldering wreck plummeted towards the ground.