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Sadist_Cain
21-02-09, 19:49
fuzzhead;979250']The new official mumble IP is: 205.234.153.178
Please use this new mumble server as the old will be down.
Any registered usernames are retained with their pw.
Mumble for Project Reality*
*Copied For T&T
***Please use the following guide step by step to ensure the best use of Mumble in Project Reality***
1. Make sure you uninstall any current Mumble install you may have (leave the "user preferences" box unchecked during uninstall, it will remember all your settings and servers etc). Install this new one,
2. Install the latest mumble Latest version is PRMumble V0.4 Beta, Click here (http://realitymodfiles.com/fuzzhead/PrMumble_0.4beta_Installer.exe)
3. Run the audio wizard to get yourself setup initially.
4. Go to configure->settings---> select the "User Interface" tab and check the "Expert Config" box.
5. Go to configure->settings---> "Audio Input" tab
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Mumble Audio Input
Interface
- System = "Direct Sound"
- Device = yoursoundcard (Do NOT use "Default Directsound Voice Input" as it will most likely disable positional audio.)
Transmission
- Transmit = Push to Talk (Do not use "voice activation" as it can pickup background room noise.) Although I myself use voice activation, if this is what you're going to do then make sure its set to "raw amplitude from input" as this is the best setting for eliminating background noise... Set up voice activation CAREFULLY, sniff, whisper and make wierd noises to see what your mic picks up and dosn't and make sure you don't set your "grace time" too high (mine is set to 0.80sec) this is the time your mic will carry on transmitting if there's silence.
Setting use voice activation with mumble can make it far far better.
Also ensure you have your standard BF2 VOIP key set in the Shortcuts tabs as a "push-to-mute" key to stop any echoey crosstalk
Compression
- Quality = 10 (this can be lowered to accommodate those with bandwidth limitations. If you notice in-game lag, lowering this setting will help)
- Audio per packet = 20ms (this can be raised to accommodate those with bandwidth limitations. If you notice in-game lag, raising this setting will help)
6. Go to configure->settings---> select the "Audio Output" tab and use the following settings...
Quote:
Mumble Audio Output
Red = Official PR settings that should be set exactly as noted
Green = Recommended settings that may be altered according to user preference
Mumble Audio Output
- check the "Positional Audio" box.
- volume - 60% (while setting BF2 ingame effects to 50% and voip to 100%)
7. Go to configure->settings---> select the "Shortcuts" tab. Bind a key for "Push-to-Talk" on one key and bind "Force Center Position" on a seperate key. Use "Push-to-Talk" for localized VOIP and use "Force Center Position" to talk to all in the channel.
7. Go to configure->settings---> select the "Messages" tab and untick all text-to-speech boxes (this is to remove the Microsoft Sam voice messages)
8. Go to configure->settings---> select the "Plugin" tab and tick "Link to Game and Transmit Position" (if you don't do this, 3D audio won't work)
9. Go to configure->settings---> select the "Overlay" tab and untick Enable Overlay (keeping the overlay enabled may cause random punkbuster kicks with BF2)
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INSTALL NOTE:
Here's a common install issue people been having
1. Go the Connection, setup the server, port, username and then click ADD.
2. Select the server from the list to the left and then click Connect.
Putting the server information and clicking Connect directly doesn't work for some reason, use the method above.
Troubleshooting
Problem: I can hear everyone no matter where they are in game.
Solution: if you followed the guide correctly it has been known for Mumble to sometimes erase all saved settings, Dont Know Why. Check and make sure that you have BOTH the "Enable Positional Audio" and "link to in game transmission" checked these options are found under Audio Input/Output and the "Plugins" tab (ensure you have expert config ticked under the user interface icon)
Problem: Microsoft Sam wont Shut The Fuck Up!!!
Solution: Disable everything to do with Text to speech under the "messages" tab
Problem: I can hear people who are close and cant hear them if they're far away, however directional audi dosn't seem to be working properly
Solution: you may be using an older version of mumble, you can find this by either Clicking "about" under the "help" menu OR check "Audio Output" if you have a "roll off" slider then you have an old version (current version is R1522)
Problem: No Directional audio, can hear everyone in global chat (hearing people you shouldnt)
Solution: another solution for this can be going into both Audio Input/Output and changing your input/output device from your soundcard to "default directsound" or vice versa.
It seems one way works for some and not others.
Problem: Jittery/ stuttering sound.
Solution: Audio input> Lower audio quality OR lower audio per pack OR Audio Output> Raise latency OR Jitter Buffer (NOT Jitter Bug)
So ends T&Ts Mumble help thread, will add to this as needs be
New server address added.
Sadist_Cain
16-05-09, 20:34
tidied up a bit and added new version of PRMumble.
Strongly advise everyone to start using it, I have it with voice activation on all the time which isnt a problem in game, If I'm near you you can hear me and we can talk if not, no problems with me screaming to myself.
Voice activation on TS also so I just alternate muting TS and mumble depending which I'm talking on. Also have BF2 VOIP set to "Push-to-mute" for mumble so I get no crosstalk
one button to use voip, one that mutes TS and mumble (both) so when I start up I mute the one I start first, then launch the next and that key then simply toggles between mumble or TS, Clever ey?
two keys 3 voip programs all working effortlessly
PRMumble now has locked settings so setting up should be an issue.
If you find mumble being quiet then lower your in game effects volume, @Hybrid if you cant hear someone at 20m, (though I can when I shout at them...) take a full sized footy pitch, put someone in the centre and you stand on the sidelines, talk at normal volume see if they can hear you, that's 20m
There's no doubt mumble WILL be integrated with the PR install (epochs the one doing it ffs) however EVERYONE is using it now (UKWF, iGi, TCC, and every DEV I know) So saying "we'll use it when it's integrated" is no good.
It's NOW that people are searching for servers full of REGULAR mumble players so we can't expect to amass a huge following of good quality tactically minded mumblers overnight when we decide to get off our asses as a community and use it.
We need to start to build up our following NOW and get our regulars on mumble.
There's seperate channels for SLs on each team to use so crosstalk isn't a problem and by FAR there's a lot more noise and general bullshit on the TS server in game than the mumble server because TS is (and probably always will be) our main meeting area for chatting and socialising within the community.
Mumble is what our PLAYERS are using, it's a single public server so they can all access it far quicker and easier than TS and it can be more social because within mumble everyone's a stranger, it's the best place to connect with, recruit and get to know our playerbase whereby its far easier to steer them towards the Webby and onto TS.
Mumble is where the party's at, TS is the VIP area.
/Begin Rant
I've heard every excuse under the sun about mumble and NONE of them have any credibility or hold any water.
exploiting, which can't be done with PRMumble,
the sound not being as good, which is just half arsedness with setting it up
in the first place (if everyone elses audio is perfectly fine then its YOUR
fault you havn't set your settings properly)
Cross talk from SM's using voip, Thats a failing as a squadleader to get your squad to follow orders and simply push a different button....
"the enemy can hear me".... hmmm.... Pussy
It's just another TS like fad like Vent, Xfire and so on. NONE of these programs changes or effects the way PR is played. Xfire can give you vids and screenies, Dunno whats so special about Vent and TS is just the plain ol' daddy of VOIP, you talk, EVERYONE hears.
Mumble changes things in that everyone is on the same thing in game, so there's no fucking about with whether it's Xfire, Vent, TS or whatever, no pissing about with different server IPs, we're all in the same room in the same place which is where ALL of the good parts of the Realitymod community are residing (ala mumble)
the way I can say "APC there's an RPG on the right"
when a chopper is landing I can say to JUST HIM "bail out this area's too hot" before he even lands.
I can walk up to IAJTHAMAS' squad and ask him what he's doing, tell him my plan and I'm going to need his cover.
I can talk to that bastard medic in the other squad who wont heal me and find out why or tell him to get his ass over to me.
I can talk to the lil blue guy from another squad who's pinned down with me and tell him to bolt for it while I give covering fire.
I can be in the same channel as all the other SLs in my team (I grant you TS does that, with the addition of 12 other people who arent SLs having to listen in) I can talk with JUST the SLs and yet walk up and talk to everyone.
ALL THE OTHER MAJOR PR SERVERS ARE BACKING MUMBLE WE'RE THE ONLY BIG ONE THAT ISN'T AND CONSEQUENTLY ARE SUFFERING FOR IT
There's a reason for that and a LOT better games are had with it in PROPER use (that is as many people on as possible). I've seen our mumble lounge with 20 people on it ONCE (and it was fucking epic) when everyone else is like that all the time.
Of course it's a bag of shit when there's only 3 of us on there, it makes it pointless because you cant just talk to any ol' blue guy that's around
I'm sick to death of trying to get people to remove their heads from their rectal cavity and the "Mumble vs TS, Mumble vs VOIP BULLSHIT There's no competition, they serve DIFFERENT purposes
There's NO CREDIBLE REASON to not use the dam thing, NONE, NOTHING, NADA. We need new community members, right now all the decent eligable applicants are on...? MUMBLE
If people are using a server like UKWF because they nearly ALWAYS have a full mumble lounge then what reason do they have to come onto ours when we've got fuck all of an infrastructure going and a community that in general can't be fucking assed to communicate with these strangers (also known as players, that become regulars, that keep the standard of games high, that bring in more players, that become members and keep the server going)
As I said, TS is "Our" place to chill and chat to one another and have a game. Mumble is what our players are and from now on (due to its integration) WILL be using and if we aren't going to get in the same boat as our players are jumping into then fine, we'll stay on board the sinking ship instead.
Epochs Pie Chart:
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3685/graph2.jpg
It's getting absolutly ridiculous now guys, I'm hearing the same bullshit over and over again "wahh It's shit I cant hear people" no YOU are shit for not thinking "hmmm, people are quiet, oh I know, I'll use this VOLUME BUTTON!"
Sick of it being treated like the "replacement for BF2 VOIP or TS" ITS NOT! ITS SERVING A TOTALLY DIFFERENT AND VERY GOOD USE!
And also sick about having to balk about it all the time when it's a simple thing to do, takes no effort and will help keep the server in the spotlight instead of in the back room hiding.
Keep using TS as it's our community meeting area but mumble is where the gamers are and where we need to be
/end massive rant
Install it, Use it, END OF "Edit: NO how many times do you want telling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gunwitch"
That's an epic rant, 9/10 for capitalised coloured and underlined walls of text.
Trouble is mate, using it buggered up all my VOIP apps running. SLing in the middle of a round and losing VOIP isn't exactly what I want. It's happened twice now and is starting to piss me off.
Server chat right now has some random pubby asking everyone to get on Mumble - it's not like we've actively asked for our server not to be included on the murmer host server...
Right, i'm sick of this shit too. If people can swear then so can i. Not everyone wants to use it. It's not he be all and end all of life and gaming GOT IT!
NO I WON'T FUCKING USE IT, I DON'T WANT TO USE IT, I HATE IT, IT'S ANNOYING HAVING 2 FUCKING VOIPS AS IT IS.
If people want to use it hen fine, if not then fine. Don't fucking dictate or demand people use it.
End of. Stupidly excessive use of stupid pie charts and colours.
This is getting a bit silly.
This is getting a bit silly.
Oh i agree :D
Sadist_Cain
17-05-09, 03:09
Firstly I ain't apologising on my opinion but I WILL apologise if it came off as dictatorish.
There's an attitude that's pissing me off and I need to vent, this ain't personal shit, read on.
That's an epic rant, 9/10 for capitalised coloured and underlined walls of text.
Trouble is mate, using it buggered up all my VOIP apps running. SLing in the middle of a round and losing VOIP isn't exactly what I want. It's happened twice now and is starting to piss me off.
Server chat right now has some random pubby asking everyone to get on Mumble - it's not like we've actively asked for our server not to be included on the murmer host server...
good reason to not be using it if it dosn't work then groovey
Right, i'm sick of this shit too. If people can swear then so can i. Not everyone wants to use it. It's not he be all and end all of life and gaming GOT IT!
NO I WON'T FUCKING USE IT, I DON'T WANT TO USE IT, I HATE IT, IT'S ANNOYING HAVING 2 FUCKING VOIPS AS IT IS.
If people want to use it hen fine, if not then fine. Don't fucking dictate or demand people use it.
End of. Stupidly excessive use of stupid pie charts and colours.
You've always been able to swear.
I fucking love being able to emphasis my point and get the same "Vocal" reply from you gunny.
I've split my post into non biased "Politcally Correct" information, opinion and update and then Full on fuck off rant for that reason.
Completely understand your view aswell, I still think you're a lazy bastard to not bother with it :p :punch:
But I never see you squadleading and you always hated the shit, not out of mumble personally but just using another VOIP App.
You're set in your way based on that.
I know how pissed off you'd get installing it and troubleshooting.
For it's uses, I can't imagine it benefitting you very much to be honest.
You're not fussed about having positional audio or any other uneeded toys unless they're in the install. Same goes for quite a few folk here.
Gunny you have opinions and are set in them with a solid foundation and I have mine that are totally different, where I think everyone should pain themselves to develop what could turn into something awesome.
We both have our views for good reason and there's no point in just arguing about it when I completely and utterly respect and understand your point of view and am not looking for a pointless arguement when my origional point wasn't meant to apply to you or anyone personally.
This is my opinion that i'm gonna fucking say, why? Because I can, this is the internet, I'm not forcing anyone to agree or read everything I have to say. I don't have a gun to your head, take it or Leave it.
My ranting's on fuckers who mimic Gunnys opinion of BALLOCKS TO IT which he's had at FIRST mention of mumble without needing an install to find out.
It's people that'll mimic the attitude after installing for lip service, just not bothering to set it up right and for some Fucking reason, feel the need to broadcast it out everywhere that it's shit for anyone and everyone. Driving people away so they don't want to join our server.
It's the hating that drives folk away cos we don't use mumble.
is it so fucking hard to give a non biased explantion of its uses THEN go off on why YOU YOURSELF think it's shit?!?!
Notice when folk like Rudd, Fuzzhead, UKWF guys join on mumble they usually have an ass load of fellow mumblers following them in when they're on and it's fucking epic! Not just for mumblers but Epic for the general server population because of all the close knit random players we get. as a result, People bond with mumble... The whole idea of a community.
And Epic for those of us who DO want to and LIKE going through the Beta Pains to experiance the benefits.
Several other members (katash you're the most recent I can think of so I'll choose you cos I know you don't take this personal)
My point is I've seen you and others using mumble and coordinated with you all, Know youve had a good crack with a fair amount of folk on the server.
Wouldn't give a shit if you left it alone and never touched it again till it was built in and you have to. I know you've tried it, fiddled with it and used it to full potential in good scenarios.
I'm not against you and others for deciding not to use mumble after you've given it a genuine go. I'm still gonna rip the piss and annoy you endlessly with it but someone tell me if that's any different from my normal attitude?
I'm just getting fucked off with the empty mumble lounge.
For some reason my personal opinion flows out of myself far easier on a kayboard.
I said there's no credible reason to not use it, that's a lie cos there is good reason.
My point is there's no reason not use it and to talk shit about a beta program that's barely even a a couple months old (in PR terms) and fuck up the whole fucking communitys general use of it for those who do like it.
I like it here, the carpet's nice but I still go on UKWF and other server (which I never normally) JUST so I can mumble with folk cos they're all scared away from our server
That's more the direction I was aiming for.
Be aware aswell this aint personal, it's a pissed off opinion I've ranted out, not something You HAVE to participate in, Just my feelings towards a subject at hand laid on a table for you to replay to if you want. EPOCH I WANT MY OWN FORUM WHERE I CAN FILL IT WITH MY MAD RAMBLINGS ON LIFE THE UNIVERSE AND EVERYTHING, THEN IT WON'T SEEM LIKE IM ATTACKING EVERYONE SO MUCH IN A PUBLIC FORUM :d (I'll need several TB of storage space for my pictures).
Needed some more colour
Oh Believe me I'm fucking attacking, but I'm attacking a subject and an Attitude, I wanna make that Crystal Fucking CLEAR.
I appreciate the replies, Hope we're still good Gunny and that you havn't taken that personal either Squaddie, I don't believe you to be the sort that would anyhow, and dont dare ANY of you lot feel this is a personal attack on you, I'm sick of a collective attitude and Need to express myself on it (*Cough* Forum *cough*).
FURTHERMORE you've put down two good reasons not to use it that are solid and concrete and reasons that wont change untill a full integration happens.
You don't broadcast out or have "MUMBLES SHIT" tattooed on your forehead in every pub game.
So my beef isn't on your attitude and I thankyou for bringing light through my ravings on some genuine reasons and attitudes NOT to use mumble.
it's most use is in an SL role at the moment, With organised other players on. It'll be a LOT more useful for a LOT more people if/when it's integrated with the PR files.
I'm the sort who'll spend a few weeks downloading mod files for GWX, and then two solid days of WORK to install them properly. I have to have a Start up sequence for PR, TS, and mumble to work properly that took age's to figure out (and much static as you may remember) but I'll do it cos I love tinkering with these kinda things and if it don't work then I'll want to help (if there's potential.
There's potential in mumble and it needs help.
Epoch think's its a pain in the arse and yet he's helping develop it!? That's the way it should be.
Not...
Newbie: "what's mumble?"
[T&T] Member: "ITS A BAG OF SHIT DONT USE IT"
Rant to reg's and mates all you like (Obviously) but STOP SCARING THE FISH AWAY!
this all evolves into a basic STOP PICKING ON THE FUCKING LITTLE GUY!!!!!!!!! Complex... (masaq, take note... you might have an exam on this in future)
The programs only little and there's sheep just jumping on the apparent T&T "It's shit" band wagon that's occured from nowhere.
We're only sharing this Group with the smaller and not as "popular" servers.
We're a big hitter in the PR Serverworld and rightly fucking so! However our peers are adopting a system whereby a lot of our regs and quality players (potential new recruits) are slipping away or even avoiding the server in the first place, leaving us with the "undesireables"
THE REASONS I THINK ITS FUCKING GREAT DOSN'T NECCESSARILY APPLY TO ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know that, I ain't a total dick, Like I said nothing personal, merely a crossing of the brain matter, which I do fucking love especially with good replies that AREN'T getting personal. it starts getting evil when they're transform into mindless one on one flaming which I GUARENTEE this isn't going to cos we're more intelligent than that (lord of fuck dont lemme down).
Needed to say that bit.
That's what's been pissing me off, no fucking end.
and I am quite willing to lock you in a TS room with a few "well known young lads" arguing over a sniper kit for hours until you get off your ass and do shit properly.
Again Sqnldr, Gunny, Others in the same boat I don't expect you to be the sort who like to tell people to not use mumble cos it's shit.
Id expect (and I hope I'm right cos I know you're good folk) you to say to everyone (If Asked what?), I think it's shit, but it's a voice program etc. etc.
It dosn't work on my fucking pc.... Or I can't be fucked to use it
What I don't expect from anyone (not just T&T but anywhere) is a ballocks rant on something you have no knowledge or experiance on, go off on how ballocks it is and drive Good Players away to use other servers!!!!!!!! That pisses me off.
if someone uses it properly they need half a brain just to get the fucking thing working properly (not so much with the newer version, but still... ) and people with half a brain can be fucking difficult to find!
Hope this makes my point a bit clearer, I'm not good at compressing it down but that's because I expect if you want to read it you'll read it, first few paragraphs is the general jist
Peace and love to all
Dude - I use it. At least, I did until it stopped my ingame voip from working. I'm tinkering to get it fixed - in the mean time, SLing without ingame VOIP is a no-go.
Sounds like you've bonded really well with the UKWF dudes. I'm not sure why you haven't been promoting mumble use more actively on our server, as opposed to behind the scenes like this, and spending a lot of time on UKWF....
Seriously man, I think it's clear that although some of us lads aren't using mumble, a full mumble experience can be gained from simply a handful of key players on it.
I've had good rounds of mumble use on OUR server, with all the trimmings you've described. I don't see what the issue is here - us saying "Hey look, mumble, woo yay!!!" all over the ingame serverspam isn't going to make a blind bit of difference. Saying over voip to your SMs "Oh I'm talking to that blue guy there, it's this thing called mumble, I find it to be pretty cool" might get these fish we're after. Remember that game of Qwai as chinese? Yeah - that was on T&T.
We haven't put up a barrier against mumble. Right now, given the small proportion of people who use it, a lot of people don't feel it worth the effort. All we can do is keep using it until more and more people do feel it's worth the effort. Don't just not-be-arsed and go on UKWF instead. That's just balls.
And cain dude, nothing personal, it's 6am... lots of coffee etc...
Peace, love and kittens.
Oh and ps, I used this neat little web app to read your post out to me, I found that wall just too daunting to even attempt to read :D
http://www.omfgod.com/wp-content/gallery/pictures/omfg-argh.jpg
What a load of shit and babble Cain. Stop making crap up and trying to polarise people over mumble. You're your worst efing enemy with rants like this. It makes me want to stop using mumble ffs.
Please spare us!
Cain you're off yer fucking head :D
When it first came about and people were using it, i installed it, used it and decided i didn't like it. Too much going off on it while i was playing and too many idiots.
Besides without ALT-TABbing i never knew who was talking about what.
So i got rid, wasn't for me. I did have it for about a week so ner ner ner.
I've got too much in head with my new career etc to take it on again and gaming has taken a back seat for the last month and foreseeable future until i've done what i need to do.
Hell it took me an hour to figure out how to install the mods etc for ARMA last night so i went to bed :p coz it hurt me head!
As long as people don't ignore TS or in game voip while on mumble then fine, that's what annoys me most, and it does happen. If it's set up correctly as you can do it, then great stuff.
But at the end of the day SC, lets face it, i'm right and you're wrong...
MUMBLE IS POO lol
Im with Gunny on the mumble subject and I see alot of your rant cain coming from our.."debate" on TS 3-4 nights ago.
I will embrace mumble when:
1) Positional audio is removed
2) Ability to talk diect with other SL is firmly established
3) It replaces ingame voip
Until then, heres some KY and dont let it chaff your arse lol
All the times ive tried to use mumble ive come accross the following problems:
1) For example on kashan i tried to organise my squad at the start into armor, but after 15mins of listening to EVERY dickhead pub nub ranting and shouting on mumble just because they're stood within 50m of me i finally got the chance to HEAR MY SQUAD. Please someone dont yell use ingame voip i tried both and i couldnt hear them they couldnt hear me.
2) Regardless of what settings I have and if I have my volume so high its making my ears bleed I'm pissed with the fact that i cant hear my squad member who si stood mroe than 50m away because of the directional audio bollocks.
I want clear loud comes not "oh look your somehwere to the east of me.... how jolly spiffing!"
So i end up using ingame voip.... which means ive loaded up mumble for nothing since im not using it.
3) I try talking to my squad and all I can hear is johnny dickhead from another squad shouting "tallllllibaaaaaannnnn AI AIA IA AIA AI AIA IA" meaning i cant hear shit in ym squad using ingame or mumble.
4) It's a platform to cheat, For example, if your going down a street not knowing a cache is present near you and you overhear a guy 50m away saying "Ishamael we need to defend this cache" then youve gained cheap intel!. Mr taliban/insurgent doesnt stand on a roof shouting.... theres a cache over hear mr man!
5) Still no effective means to communicate with toher SL's as all you hears is random bollocks that people are saying
6) Mumble fanboys are starting to get irritating like spicyawp. "Look i have an erection over mumble and ive just shot my load, come shoot yours too"
7) "Its more realistic"..... No its not! Your not shouting your movements to the enemy in CQC or 100m away to another team. We all know the ONLY thing that makes mumble realistic is that you can tell roughly what direction the sounds coming from.
So to restate, IMO,Mumble will be great if:
1) Ingame voip is replaced by mumble quality audio but using the EXACT same audio setup.. eg squad only talk no directional shit.
2) Mumble is coded to allow ONLY squad leaders to communicate... not joe average!
3) Positional audio is removed
4) People stop telling me I NEED to get it.
Also i dont really give a monkeys if UKWF has got a Flying Gold brick shitting monkey on their server. I only play [T&T], i pay [T&T],Therefore i care about [T&T] not UKWF and if theire number 1 or 1million on PR.
thedoombringer0
17-05-09, 10:05
I know where tommys coming from it seems more like agressive do it my way more so than gentle persusion :p
But i also know where you are coming from cain.
Im still somewhat on the fence but looking on the "mumble is shit" side as cain called it because to me the grass looks that little bit greener.
I aint reading any of this shit. I expect a pie chart by lunchtime, or I'm deleting the thread ..... ;)
TAW_Cutthroat
17-05-09, 10:28
2) Ability to talk diect with other SL is firmly established
You can, join the squad leaders channel, then you can use Force centre to speak to other squad leaders.
Smurf_3993_
17-05-09, 10:42
topic of the year, gave up reading half way down :D will try 2 instal this mumble jumble shit, if it f*cks everything else up cain, u coming down 2 london ( deep into south west jungle ) and under lock and key with a black man with a syringe filled with c**ck behind u (ouch :anal:) fixing it.
TAW_Cutthroat
17-05-09, 10:55
To keep epoch happy:
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p165/cutthroatjake/Untitled-1-1.jpg?t=1242554055
At the end of the day, some people like it and some don't. That should be enough for everyone.
No more slagging off people who use OR don't use it, it's getting old.
Cheers Jake! I geddit now.
Reply in bold...
Im with Gunny on the mumble subject and I see alot of your rant cain coming from our.."debate" on TS 3-4 nights ago.
I will embrace mumble when:
1) Positional audio is removed Errr thats half the point of mumble
2) Ability to talk diect with other SL is firmly established IS established
3) It replaces ingame voip Will unlikely happen, its an aid TO voip.
Until then, heres some KY and dont let it chaff your arse lol
All the times ive tried to use mumble ive come accross the following problems:
1) For example on kashan i tried to organise my squad at the start into armor, but after 15mins of listening to EVERY dickhead pub nub ranting and shouting on mumble just because they're stood within 50m of me i finally got the chance to HEAR MY SQUAD. Please someone dont yell use ingame voip i tried both and i couldnt hear them they couldnt hear me.
You probably have it set up wrongly. The new versions makes it easier as the settings are done for you
2) Regardless of what settings I have and if I have my volume so high its making my ears bleed I'm pissed with the fact that i cant hear my squad member who si stood mroe than 50m away because of the directional audio bollocks.
I want clear loud comes not "oh look your somehwere to the east of me.... how jolly spiffing!"
As above
So i end up using ingame voip.... which means ive loaded up mumble for nothing since im not using it.
3) I try talking to my squad and all I can hear is johnny dickhead from another squad shouting "tallllllibaaaaaannnnn AI AIA IA AIA AI AIA IA" meaning i cant hear shit in ym squad using ingame or mumble.
As abpve
4) It's a platform to cheat, For example, if your going down a street not knowing a cache is present near you and you overhear a guy 50m away saying "Ishamael we need to defend this cache" then youve gained cheap intel!. Mr taliban/insurgent doesnt stand on a roof shouting.... theres a cache over hear mr man!
At 50m you'll hear a very faint whisper unless you have it set up wrongly
5) Still no effective means to communicate with toher SL's as all you hears is random bollocks that people are saying
You CAN comm with other SL's now
6) Mumble fanboys are starting to get irritating like spicyawp. "Look i have an erection over mumble and ive just shot my load, come shoot yours too"
Just as irritating as those who oppose it
7) "Its more realistic"..... No its not! Your not shouting your movements to the enemy in CQC or 100m away to another team. We all know the ONLY thing that makes mumble realistic is that you can tell roughly what direction the sounds coming from.
The only thing...so it IS more realistic then, make your mind up.
Regarding SL comms. The mumble server is set up in a special way specifically to do this. Mumble's clever like that apparently.
the problem with mumble is it makes the game so noisy that you cant hear your own squad or the commander.
I am on a full T&T server now and there are only 2 people on mumble (including me) - not sure what that says about it?
It says T&T aren't behind it in force to promote it (which is fair enough as some don't like it)
Last night I was on the test server and 50 out of 64 people were using it which was impressive.
Cheesygoodness
17-05-09, 17:02
You know Cain has a point...
If I follow this logic then I suppose.
Id expect (and I hope I'm right cos I know you're good folk) you to say to everyone (If Asked what?), I think it's shit, but it's a voice program etc. etc.
It dosn't work on my fucking pc.... Or I can't be fucked to use it
What I don't expect from anyone (not just T&T but anywhere) is a ballocks rant on something you have no knowledge or experiance on, go off on how ballocks it is and drive Good Players away to use other servers!!!!!!!! That pisses me off.
I currently expect everyone on T&T to head out and go suck a dick tomorrow, If you don't then I expect you to tell people that 'I haven't tried it but I heard its pretty good.' (To be quite honest its heavenly! And since no one on T&T ever talks about it but me I expect that quote 'Heavenly' used.)
So its a fair deal. As long as everyone on T&T when asked to suck a dick says 'I haven't tried it but I heard its heavenly' I'll tell people good things about mumble.
But hey thats how I just read it. :D
Shut up you and put your application in already!
Cheesygoodness
17-05-09, 17:17
http://www.tacteam.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1756
Already discussed it! Keep up Rico-san.
Sadist_Cain
17-05-09, 17:43
Cheesey You had me at dick sucking ...
I could've compressed down what I'd written into a paragraph but I'm not as good with words as some, and as said, lotta coffee :P
Where's the fun in just a paragraph anyway? :D
no probs with not using it like I said but it's summin that does need a lil more "exposure" on our server to be frank (or bill or w/e) I havn't been on UKWF that much tbh probably only 2-4 times I can think of in the past months purely because of a packed mumble server.
It can be called a gimmick but if it's a gimmick that gets us some of the cream of the crop in the server then let it run its course.
Can't stand a night of mumble with fanboys who find it to be the be all and end all of life and all existance, It's not going to save the world or end hunger.
It can save a lotta bother with organisation and quality play from the blue folk on the server though (for those using it) which EVERYONE can benefit from having the general calibre of play raised, mumble can help that huuuuugely.
Cain out before I get rolling again :P:salute:
Freddy Chickenbatter
11-12-09, 02:07
dont want to bring up any old ghosts but I'm at work right now being paid for reading T&T forums ... good innit :) I just had to say that without doubt this thread has the best,longest and most pie chart included rants in it I have ever read in all my life, well done and kudos to the pieman .
PS
whats mumble ?
dont want to bring up any old ghosts but I'm at work right now being paid for reading T&T forums ... good innit :) I just had to say that without doubt this thread has the best,longest and most pie chart included rants in it I have ever read in all my life, well done and kudos to the pieman .
PS
whats mumble ?
:megalol::megalol:
Sadist_Cain
11-12-09, 03:11
:thumbsup: that made my night lol
I have the "mentality of a retarded whelk" as my father and boss would say, therefore I need brightly coloured crayons and things to draw with to keep myself amused :idiot:
P.S. Mumble is a program that ties into Project Reality, The Battlefield 2 mod the majority of folk play, some more than others from time to time.
it basically superimposes your voice onto your character in-game, much like direct speak in Arma.
It allows any "soldier" to talk to anyone in game as if theyre standing next to them, greatly improving communications from the standard; Only talk to 5 other people (out of 32) into the ability for all grunts to chat if next to each other and all squadleaders to banter about battle formations and what not to wear.
Pie man out :salute:
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