Wireless internet set up

[Sadist_Cain]

Heyo.. Here's th story

Friend has some sort of BT router (yet to figure out, his mum hates me...) Just baught a new PC and Wireless PCI card to go with.

Drivers installed everything peachy and happy. Enter WEP key; Ask him to find either 26 or 10 digits on the router... he returns with 12, No matter I type it in it complains and I dicover it has decided the WEP key itself...

All good, Connect

It connects and we're stuck at Aquiring network address.

It tells me I'm connected, Firewalled. So I'm gonna try turning that off next obviously. I'm also going to find out the router IP and get in there if I can to turn that firewall off and see if there's anything in there that's boned.

Had no such worries setting up mine and other wireless connections, several times, Though it's been a while and I feel I'm missing something big and obvious

Ports 5000-5020 are unlocked on my wireless that works, That it? :S

I've also gone through the Belkin set up and the Windows set up... Both eventually connect but I just can't seem to get the internet through the hole... Is the port not big enough? should I get a power drill to enlarge it :)?

In short... help

This problem is really doing my head in because he's resorting to this... "but the BT CD will make it work..."
MAYBE IT WILL BUT ALONG WITH A LOAD OF SPYWARE AND YAHOO CRAP!!!!!! arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh

He then tormented me that he'll install AOL :(

One thing I do remember....

I hate wireless

[Gunwitch]

do
not
go
wireless

[epoch]

What you you asking Cain?

If it's a BT Homehub (ie the one with a phone attached) then it uses 64 bit WEP encryption with a 12 digit key. SSID normally something like "BTHomeHub-a2ef" and the WEP is written on the back of the device.

Personally I think they're shite, and wouldn't touch them with a bargepole.

Oh - and what Gunny says too ;)

[SargeBanner]

I r being wired soon :D

Sure you cant just use the CD, and deselect all the AOL & spyware crap ?

Sarge

[Sadist_Cain]

CD bad

T'aint a homehub

And it must've been a 64bit WEP since I used a 12 digit key and it randomly made up its own 10 digit one afterwards :S

The big problem is it tells me it's connected and has signal... but dosn't give me internet It says it is "aquiring network address"

I have signal and whatnot but it just won't gimme and IP or anything as such

[Gunwitch]

Disable wireless, get a cable and see if that works, if not there's something wrong with the router.

What type of router is it exactly? Product number etc.

[SargeBanner]

Try switching it off/on again ?

(Just saw that Navy Engineer advert ...)

Mine used to sit aquiring the network for ages, then just wouldn't even register a connection at all, semm all it needed was theoff/on procedure.

Sarge

[epoch]

Does it say it's connected to the router, but fail to obtain an IP address?

If so, that's a layer 2 problem....

[Gunwitch]

In which case you need a 3 layer choccy cake :D

[Sadist_Cain]

Are you guys saying it's a problem with the level 4 caching? :eek:

Loved using that in front of customers...

Anyhow yes it does just sit there saying aquiring network adress for ages whilest it also saying it's connected. What you say Epoch.

Im plugged in but I have no number

I'm pondering getting a usb stick and using that whole crazy windows method with his laptop (which works with the router already) to get the PC working

[Gunwitch]

Get a cable and see if that works. Quick and simple. Does he have wireless on his pc.........

[Masaq]

First, try disabling WEP entirely.

Get a stable connection running unencrypted to begin with, then give it a WEP key that you decide. Set it on the router first, then disable the wireless device on your PC, then restart it; it'll now ask for your key again.

If it doesn't get an IP address even with the network unencrypted, throw it out of the window and buy a proper piece of hardware instead of the junk that ISPs mail you :p


EDIT: Actually, the windows wireless network configurator works bloody well. To the point that when I ran a 802.11g network in the last shared house I lived in, I told my housemates not to install any belkin software other than the actual device driver itself and configured the client connections via Windows. Worked fine.

(Except for when the one I hated moaned that her connection didn't work too well. Probably had something to do with me using the router's onboard admin system to disable her connection to port 80 from 10pm onwards. Sometimes I'd set it earlier, sometimes later. Depended how shit my day had been :D (Yes, I'm a loathesome individual when I want to be :)))

[Sadist_Cain]

A cable isn't gonna be able to reach anywhere close gunny... though I'm considering grabbing a 10m length of some ethernetage

@Masaq I'd love to be able to nuke everything but my powers are maaainly limited to his PC (unless I can sneak into the living room :P)

I have got a stick... I'm about to try just poking it... See if that works :D

[karlos7537]

Hi all, this is my first message...but wireless is easy, no messing... I Built my own PC for £800 and should play all the latst software for the next 2 years..Wireless as pc in study and modem downstairs...If you have a fast pc and your not faraway from your modem then you should have the same online speed as hard wire connection...

Many Thanks
Karlos7537

[Gunwitch]

Cain you get different lengths of ethernet cable. I've got a 10 metre one fromt he socket to the back dining room, they go up to 25 metres in PC World. Or you could get a custom length one made (i've got a 40 metre somewhere.

Wireless doesn't give you as good a ping as wired, there's alot of variables to take into consideration like interference from digital tv, sky dish, mobile phones and passing police cars, taxis etc. And then there's the risk of being hacked which is easier than most people think.

Wired leaves no room for any of that except the usual dirt on the line or high winds if normal phone line.

The best connection imo is a cable one. Better fibre optics, no risk of wind or dirt just watch out for roadworks :D

[commando-101]

If u install a cable make sure it is CAT6 - these have solid conductors rather than stranded that ensure no signal loss for longer lengths of cable - 5M+

Quite easy - tack it on top of a skirting board taking advantage of space at carpet edges as as well.

When coming to wall, think through it rather than around it!!

To get cable through a hole/void, pull it through from the other side using someit solid/length plastic trunking/coat hanger unwound.

Have just got rid of wireless from my house & cabled throughout - bought some CAT6 cable from maplins:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=44943&doy=3m2

So now I have four wired PC's with no more messing with crappy wireless!!

I do still use wireless for a laptop but that tends to be virtually on top of the router & it is not used for games!

[Sadist_Cain]

He managed to get it set up himself :S havn't got a clue how :S he needed to set up a wireless login proxy... I dunno how the feg he managed that but it works and all is peachy :D

We'll see how it is on PR soon enough... the ping is about 35 (but I think that'll bounce more than a shagging kangaroo) and down is 530 upstream is about 250

I'll be turning up at his house with a drill and some cat6 (ooo we're more advanced than Cat5e now :D) if it dosn't work :D

It does frustrate me... He's one of those "The internet is evil, Dont go there youll get viruses!!" sort

[SargeBanner]

Now you know how i feel !

Mwahaha.

Pings will be pretty stable tbh, unless someone else is using the net, or as someone said earlier, theres interferance (spelling ?)

Sarge

[Alex6714]

I play with a 512kbit connection using wi-fi and all is good. That using a wireless usb adapter, that was said "not" to work in vista.:rolleyes: